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Why does Islam degrade women by keeping them behind the veil?

i made an illustration based on a Islamic article that i found on the deenshow.com , comic base , photos taken from various sources
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:iconkingdomkey:
I don't mean for this so seem sexist, ok, maybe it IS sexist but you as a man bringing up that wearing less clothes as a sign of freedom is a ploy by men to make them whores but saying being modest is the right thing to do... It doesn't make a strong case for me, as you are a man telling us what we should do. It is the woman's choice at the end of the day and it is about her relationship with God and how she interprets the Qur'an or the Bibles words as we all see things in different light.

Women that dress modestly still get raped and dressing in revealing clothing is not and invitation for someone to harass us.

It should not be the aim to blame victims, but to punish those that are in the wrong.
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:iconblack-jack-am:
Aside from a couple historical facts this was well put together, though I feel you don't see the other side of the argument. As a Jewish woman, I see both sides of this. I feel that while to an extent modesty is great, but implementing Sharia will not prevent rape. The reasons why Muslim nation have such a low rape rate is because a lot of instances of rape go unreported.
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:iconanony-mouse-cat:
This is very true. The USA has a high incidence of rape due to a broad definition of what constitutes rape (Which includes spousal rape and coercian), a high rate of report (of which much still goes unreported), and not as many barriers to reporting it. If, as in an Islamic country, you would be expected to marry your rapist, there is an enormous barrier to reporting that it occured and if a woman feels raped in her marriage she couldn't report it but yes, she can at least divorce him.
Islam raised women up from the status they had -at the time it came to be-. It has not since moved forward to offer protection from forced marriages, from being too young for marriage and child-bearing in an era when our years are much longer than they were then, and, when it is a state-enforced religion, it does not allow for people to follow the guidance and believe they way they feel they should - rather than how others feel they should.
Islam is as valuable and kind of a religion as christianity and Judaism and can be practiced in a safe and healthy way. I am a non-Islamic woman but I admire (and sometimes wear) Islamic dress to feel happy with myself and content with the coverage so people will read my dress and understand why I wear it. I also, sometimes, don't wear it and that, too, is what I want. I respect the right to have the choice.
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Mood: Joy !2011anvil Feb 1, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
v.neat :) good job :D
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~mclili Jan 28, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Awsome
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~Harmaasusi Jan 4, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
I rather listen to Ayaan Hirsi Ali than you. [link]
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:iconrojo-elaalex:
Whatever we wear,
Wherever we go,
Yes means yes,
And no means No.

~Slutmarch Slogan, 2011


Clothes have nothing to do with it.
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:iconacorn83:
So in countries where women are required by law to wear Hijab are men also required to wear Hijab?

And also, while I agree that the extreme sexualization of women (wearing make up at a young age, etc.) is overall bad for them I don't think forcing them the other way is a good thing either. I think the ideal society would be one that suggests modesty, and where parents control their children to keep them from ruining their lives before knowing better, but once they are adults they are able to make their own decisions and learn from their own mistakes if they desire.
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:iconjunco9:
I understand what you mean and can agree with some of your points, but like other people have pointed out there are some flaws in your arguements.

I don't understand the logic that dressing modestly will automatically reduce the instance of rape. Sure, a woman in Hijab may give some would-be molestors reason to pause, others could just as easily use it as an excuse to harrass a woman. No matter who he is harrassing, the person who commits that act should be the one to blame, not the victim, regardless of what she was wearing at the time. What the woman was wearing won't necessarily prevent something bad from happening to her - for example, I used to work at a coffee shop where all employees wore uniforms. The men's and women's uniforms were almost identical, and none of them were at all provocative or revealing. All of us would joke about how badly they fit, and how they made us all look the same. At the same time, one of the men I worked with would take every oppurtunity to harrass me and other female coworkers, calling us rude names and accusing us of being sluts for reason other than he thought our reactions were funny. Like I said, none of us were wearing anything to provoke these comments, in fact we were wearing more or less the same thing the man was wearing! Because we were women, he saw us as acceptable targets. If one of us had been wearing a hijab, would he have done the same thing? Even if he would have left a hijabi woman alone, would that have made his harrassing the rest of us any more understandable or acceptable?

If a woman chooses to dress modestly as a way of expressing a certain set of morals, well, that's perfectly fine, and I have no problem with it - and I don't think anyone else should take issue with it either. But you can't treat hijab like it's some kind of armour - it's not. There are, sadly, some people in this world who will take the oppurtunity to do awful things to women regardless of her behaviour. Also, a crime like rape has in many cultures an association with shame for the victim, so, like another commenter said, many victims don't report it. Unfortunately, that means many countries probably have a much higher rate of sexual crime than it may seem at first. Simple statistics can be decieving.

So, while hijab could, like you said, help women to feel more respectable and honoured, you can't expect it to suddenly reduce crimes against women. Every society has a different outlook on how people can behave, and implementing shariah laws will not necessarily change any of those beliefs without a problem.
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apperantly equality isnt followed

the men still degrade the women despite this

and the men who do so will find many loop holes to use againts the woman

shariah has many loop holes, a good overhaul is needed if it were to be used effectivly in this day and age

the stoning part thats still practiced are of concern
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